Modern engine swap

[cjhall]

I am looking to put a modern 5.0 roller engine in my 1970 F100 1/2 ton. Has anyone had any experience here? Will the motor mounts work? Are there adapters available?

I am also trying find out which automatic transmissions would work for my set up described above.

Thanks for the help.

[wt4speed#2]

A small block is a small block is a small block. Mounts from a 302 and or 351 windsor will do the trick. Not sure about any other engine sizes . but if you have the SB ezer had or has a set of SB perches ( http://www.fordification.com/forum/view ... hp?t=32176 )then rest is just a small block tranny i pulled a c-6 out of a van with a wndsor(of course I'm trashing the roller palns in lue of the running windsor that is in my truck). Now if your going carbed it should be a rather mindless task. Fuel injected thats someone elses department

[tfnaaf]

I too am working on the 5.0 project. Im currently looking for a 88-90??? crown vic with AOD trans for a fair price. Hopefully doing the swap this summer as time and $$ permits I currently have a long block 5.0 HO roller motor. Planning to do a MAF conversion to the Crown vic speed density system. I've dont one before on a mustang so let me know if you need and resources!

[Customize]

Roller 302 engines are wonderful street engines. The eariler Speed Density systems are much easier to install and usually only use 8 sensors, compared to the 14 or so for the MAF setup. Both are workable, but the earlier is simpler. As far as fitment is concerned, you will have plenty of room, and the standard SBF mounts should work fine.

One last thing- be sure to use the correct PCM for the wiring as Ford used a Batch (bank) fire system and than the Sequential system. I actually have a complete early EFI Batch setup if you need one.

[MadMaxetc]

Speed Density is fine for a stock engine, but it was not designed for any engine upgrades.

If you are going to upgrade the injectors or upgrade the internals during a rebuild, you are going to want MAF.

[Banjo]

I popped a 1990 Lincoln towncar 5.0 in my 68 SWB. I removed the fuel injection stuff and front cover and use Edelbrock alum intake, 500 cfm 4 barrel, factory Ford duraspark ignition, distributor from Mustang GT w/roller cam (forget what year you have to buy), attached to the C-6 that was already in the truck someone else had installed. used the factory Lincoln shorty header kinda things for exhaust and duals w/cherry bombs and no crossover. 3.23 (I think) open rear end. big tires but it's 2 wheel drive, no air, but power steering/brakes. Get's 15 on highway. Very reliable.
If I had it to do over? I'd have hunted the AOD trans and got rid of the C-6. I'd have take the time to figure out the computer and wiring and kept the fuel injection and plumbed in a return line to the gas tank and done all that right. I would be getting likely 20 plus MPG and better cold starts. Hindsight is 20/20, but that is why I'm sharing to try to help you. Banjo from Alabama.

[F100builder]

I'd like to put one of Ford's newest modular engines in a hot rod. A 4.6 or 5.4 with computer and all along with some go fast goodies! That would be way and probably get respectable mileage too! I'd do it now if I had the $$$ and more garage space.

[mr.brack]

Has any body seen a 4.6 swap yet? I'd like to check one out.

[MadMaxetc]

Has any body seen a 4.6 swap yet? I'd like to check one out.

I think this is what they are working on in the Clasic Trucks "Bumpside Build Off"

I think most of the parts needed are still in developement. The Comp and wiring is the biggest thing.

[taylor351]

I see quite a few swaps talking about the 4.6 but none on the 5.4. I have thought of the modern lightning engine with the crown vic suspension, but I do not know if the 5.4 would fit. The 4.6 seems to fit, but I wonder what the fitment issues of the 5.4 would be?

Keith

[binder56jd]

look up smokey bears project--i think he was using a mod engine

[binder56jd]

http://www.fordification.com/forum/view ... highlight=

[mr.brack]

Thats pretty damned cool, I think if i were to do it I would just weld the Merc front stub onto the f1oo frame. Or I have been looking at 01 and up crown vics. they have a really cool engine cradle/ suspension crossmember, with rack & pinion steering that bolts into the crown vic frame, and looks like it could be transplanted fairly easily.

Then it would only be a matter of making the engine and transmission run, and hooking the f100 steering colum to the rack & pinoin.

[72_Shorty]

I'd want to keep the truck frame and twin I-beam suspension, since I actually use my truck, not just for commuting, and the twin I-beam set up is very tough, so that swap wouldn't work for me.

I saw something recently in a magazine that showed the aftermarket actually made a kit to swap a modern modular engine into the older trucks. It had a wiring harness and everything to make it almost easy, uses the new engine's computer and necessary wires, but not have to cut out and adapt everything yourself, just a few wires on the aftermarket harness that you have to splice into the old truck's harness to make it all work. The hardest part would be mount the engine and fitting properly, but no more wiring headache. Another way to do it would be to swap my truck body and bed onto a newer pickup chassis, though the new frame would have to be shortened, and the mounting points are different. Either way, a lot of work, and money.

I'd love to put a 6.8L V-10 in my 72 Shortbed. It currently has a 390, which is a good engine, but I kind of want to modernize the engine and powertrain.