still have massive overflow.
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Re: still have massive overflow.
I have not yet gotten a fuel gauge/regulator on there. If the following isn't the problem, I will.
So it looks like a combination of factors...
1. I'm missing part # 9569 (washer),
2. I think have a needle that's not compatible with the seat,
3. I have a retainer that's also not compatible with the seat (looks like it' be compatible with a "screw-top" seat, not a "bolt-like-top" seat, in that it's designed with a curve (to accommodate a cylinder)).
The top of my seat looks like a bolt (not a screw, as some of the graphics I've seen in this thread look like). However, my needle looks like it'd be compatible with a "philips head" screw, in that it has 4 ridges along the cylinder. Is anyone familiar with this type of needle seat?
What do your needle, needle seat & retainer look like? Are there several variants and is it possible that I did get a needle & retainer from one variation and a needle seat from another?
Thanks all, hope you've been well.
Cooke
So it looks like a combination of factors...
1. I'm missing part # 9569 (washer),
2. I think have a needle that's not compatible with the seat,
3. I have a retainer that's also not compatible with the seat (looks like it' be compatible with a "screw-top" seat, not a "bolt-like-top" seat, in that it's designed with a curve (to accommodate a cylinder)).
The top of my seat looks like a bolt (not a screw, as some of the graphics I've seen in this thread look like). However, my needle looks like it'd be compatible with a "philips head" screw, in that it has 4 ridges along the cylinder. Is anyone familiar with this type of needle seat?
What do your needle, needle seat & retainer look like? Are there several variants and is it possible that I did get a needle & retainer from one variation and a needle seat from another?
Thanks all, hope you've been well.
Cooke
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Re: still have massive overflow.
Does the retainer clip down over the edge of the seat and stay there? If not then there's your problem. It doesn't look like it would. The needle looks ok to me; it's supposed to have the ridges on it so the fuel can get by. Does it fit fairly snug in the seat? It shouldn't be able to wobble around too much. I feel you are close to an answer....
Joe
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Re: still have massive overflow.
I feel I'm close too! I'm just so damn anxious to get it up & running!fomocoguy wrote:Does the retainer clip down over the edge of the seat and stay there? If not then there's your problem. It doesn't look like it would. The needle looks ok to me; it's supposed to have the ridges on it so the fuel can get by. Does it fit fairly snug in the seat? It shouldn't be able to wobble around too much. I feel you are close to an answer....
To answer your question: there is no real 'edge' for the seat to 'clip down' on. Which in theory allows for the retainer, float, float shaft and needle assembly to raise up indefinitely (and the carb to overflow)... sound logical?
This could be the problem
What can I do to keep that retainer down/clipped to the seat??? Small spec of super glue? rubber band? sodder? or something once everything is in place and while the bowl is empty?
What will not deteriorate in a small bowl of gasoline? And is this a method you recommend??
Thanks!
Cooke
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Re: still have massive overflow.
That retainer clip will not lock into the groove in the seat? That is definitely a problem if not...
If you cannot obtain the proper retainer and/or needle and seat combination, perhaps a bit of stainless steel safety wire around the backside of the seat would work.
If you cannot obtain the proper retainer and/or needle and seat combination, perhaps a bit of stainless steel safety wire around the backside of the seat would work.
Robert
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Re: still have massive overflow.
I honestly think my needle seat & retainer are from two different variations. The 'groove' is not nearly deep enough to hold that retainer down/in. I don't think I have any 'safety wire' but I think I could find a qualified paperclip!
Wish me luck.
Wish me luck.
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Re: still have massive overflow.
For what I am thinking something more pliable than a paper clip might be in order... perhaps a bread tie stripped of its plastic outer skin leaving only the wire...
A small wire tie might work as well, although the life expectancy immersed in fuel might be suspect...
Remember if it fails, you got fuel all over a hot engine, so consider it temporary…
A small wire tie might work as well, although the life expectancy immersed in fuel might be suspect...
Remember if it fails, you got fuel all over a hot engine, so consider it temporary…
Robert
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Re: still have massive overflow.
You don't have the correct seat if the retainer won't clip into it. You probably need the round type seat with the screwdriver slot in it, as it has a deep groove for the retainer to snap into. Don't rig it; you'll regret it later. Just go look at a rebuild kit from the parts store and see which seat it comes with. If it has the right one, snatch that sucker up. If not, I'm sure someone here (maybe me) would have one laying around for you.
Joe
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Re: still have massive overflow.
Now in the market for the correct (screw-driver-like-top) needle seat for my 2BBL carb. If anyone has one from a recent carb rebuild/etc, PLEASE LET ME KNOW!
http://fordification.com/forum/viewtopi ... 13&t=36288
THANKS!!
http://fordification.com/forum/viewtopi ... 13&t=36288
THANKS!!
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Re: still have massive overflow.
pm sent!
Joe
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Re: still have massive overflow.
OVERFLOW SOLVED & THE ENGINE IS RUNNING SMOOTH & STEADY.
FOMOCO ROCKS. THANKS MAN - SOME $ IS HEADED YOUR WAY.
NEXT UP... TRANSMISSION.
FOMOCO ROCKS. THANKS MAN - SOME $ IS HEADED YOUR WAY.
NEXT UP... TRANSMISSION.
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Re: still have massive overflow.
Good job fomocoguy! (and bonnie72f100 too)
Robert
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Re: still have massive overflow.
Congrats! I'm glad the needle, seat, and float set I sent you worked out. So, what's wrong with the trans?
Joe
1971 F100 flareside 8ft
1964 Chrysler New Yorker Town and Country wagon
2006 Dodge Ram 2500 cummins
2005 Ford Ranger
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1964 Chrysler New Yorker Town and Country wagon
2006 Dodge Ram 2500 cummins
2005 Ford Ranger